Can it be done? In this day and age can we live without a phone or internet? The question really is, can we live without a phone or internet bill?
We are attempting to answer that question here in Puerto Rico.
A lot of our challenges in living here are self-imposed. We could easily get a phone and internet plan, for instance, however, we want to see what our needs are versus our wants. And when you just replicate the life you left, you never actually get to find out that answer. Plus by going without we learn how to find work-arounds rather than just the easy, but expensive way.
And actually in Colorado, we both had phones paid for by our work, but we haven’t had a phone bill in a long time and we weren’t too excited to start paying a subscription of $50-100/month for that service. Same thing for internet.
For internet here, we have been using WiFi at various locations throughout town as well as the open WiFi signal that we can pick up on the roof of the cabana. That worked fine, except when it would rain. I tried to be out there in the rain once under a towel, but just got soaked!
But overall, we have been here for over a month and I would say that in general, yes we can definitely live without a phone or internet subscription. There is nothing so pressing that we have to be tethered to a phone or internet all day long.
But occasionally it is nice to be connected. Internet needs were met pretty well, but about two weeks after we arrived I wanted to call my mom. So we kept our eyes out for a pay phone and we found one at the Econo Grocery Store in Rincón!
Public Payphone: A rare sighting nowadays
We were stoked to have a resource like this for other occasional calls we may need to make, like lining up bee removal, tile installation, labor, etc.
We made our first call to my mom using the credit card feature –against my gut feeling that we should just use change. I never like paying for something without actually knowing the bill amount. The call went fine.
A couple of days later, however my instincts turned out to be correct as we checked our bank account and saw a charge of $52 for telephonic services! Well geeze, if we were going to spend $52 on 10 minute phone call, we would just get a cell phone! We thought that must be a mistake because the rates on the payphone were like 50 cents for 5 minutes. Maybe it was a holding charge that would go away? We determined to find out, but we would need to call our bank in Colorado –using the very same pay phone! Thankfully, it was a toll free number and so we didn’t have to pay anything or give out any credit card numbers to call them.
The bank representative looked at the charge and said that it was a scam of some sort that a secondary party intercepted the credit card (debit card actually) number and charged that amount. She said they would reverse the charges in 5 business days and that we would need to get a new debit card since those numbers were compromised. What a pain! But it all worked out. The charges were reversed and a new card was sent out- to our forwarding address (Britton’s parent’s house in Greeley) since we still haven’t been able to set up mail service here (a LONG story that will hopefully be resolved soon).
The replacement card has arrived (thanks Barb for sending our mail to us general delivery), but we are supposed to activate it with our home phone -haha! Joke’s on us. We will probably have to use that same pay phone and hope that it will work since it’s obviously not a home or cell number.
So, there have been some inconveniences especially when people ask for our phone number. It is just assumed you would have a phone. But if people really want to talk with us they just come to our house, like Rafael who sold us the blue guagua, or Dave who will be helping us with the remodeling of the wood house. We have no doorbell either, so a honk of the horn alerts us to visitors! Or people can connect with us via email or Facebook.
Every now and then Britton will have phantom cell phone vibrations from his traumatic experience with having to carry a cell phone at every moment including when he was on-call and had to sleep with it by his side. I never carried my cell phone with me since it was strictly for work purposes, so I think it has been a little easier for me to adjust to the no-phone lifestyle. We are not sure if we ever will get a phone, but for now it is working out. It is actually a really freeing feeling.
And as for phone calls to my mom in the future, we just had our first Facebook Skype session. Hey, even better than a phone call because we can see and hear each other and it’s free (thanks Laura for helping out)!
Trying to show up on Skype with my mom in the dark -the flash of the camera
Good for you using your brain to solve the “sheeple” problem of signing up for everything the easy way and then… paying through the nose forever (do sheep have nose rings?)
Another idea for you tekkie savy kids: Llorex (or Lorex) cameras, available through Costco, minimum is $200 for 2 cameras. Can be placed anywhere with a Wii connection, includes sound. You can check out any area of your property with your computer, stand if front and talk anytime, give a camera to Char and you can talk any time. We have two cams on Utah to check out mechanical systems and front of house. Perhaps you can use the lorex for the website, too. Great little cams, and probably have a lot more utility than we have dreamed up. Larry is thinking about using them as a marketing tool for listings, as buyers can check out views online, real time.
Now if we could find a free way to get Netflicks…
To have. Phone number without a phone, get a free Google Voice number. It ill send voice mail to email. Since we went to all cell, I got one to give out to everyone like banks etc.
Jerrilynn’s suggestion for a google voice number is a good one. My husband still doesn’t have a texting plan because google voice will also get texts. And it will send you an email with voice mail messages transcribed (sometimes hilariously). I use one for a “local” number since I still have a California area code.
Well I setup the Google voice phone and it works! I just activated my new bank card.
The draw back is that it thinks PR isn’t part of the US, so texts may not work and phone calls are .01 cents a minute…Which, isn’t bad. Thanks for the suggestions!
Google voice phone sounds interesting I will have to check it out
In reference that fact that GOOGLE doesn’t know that PR is part of the US. Ca2pr had an interesting post about Equal Rights For Consumers in Puerto Rico. Maybe everyone in PR needs to let Google know – start a write in or call in campaign.
You guys should try to go totally off the grid. Your almost there.
You could catch rain water (not off the cat hangout cabana roof) but off the main house. Try to find a large used plastic tank. You can get a small water pump like the kind they use in RV’s. We have one as a backup pump for when the power goes out. The little RV pumps put out plenty of water for two showers at the same time and they use very little electricity.
Speaking of which, you could go off the electrical grid also. Solar prices are really cheap now for small systems. You could probably find a bunch of used panels and a used inverter. You should by new batteries though if you want to be successful. You would need about 700 watts of panels. I am assuming your loads would be; one very efficient (no Ice maker) refrigerator, CFL lights, small water pump, a washer, microwave, fans. You would want a peak inverter capacity of probably 2000W and a 30Amp CC. I think you would need to use around 2KWHours a day. You would need about 200AH of batteries at 24 volts. (24*200=4.8KWH). All this would cost about $4000 new. Used could be much less.
And you could go one step further, Biodiesel. With all the fried food on the island you could go around collecting all the used oil and make your own fuel.
And with that much land you literally could grow all if not most of your own food.
I have thought about going totally off the grid, and we are like you said almost there already. It would be an awesome goal at some point. We don’t even have a TV, just a laptop with a 65W power AC adapter for charging. Our fridge is small and efficient and we have the CFLs and fans.
Food might be tough, but over time we will have more and more available.
I think what I like best about our lifestyle right now is that we can pick and choose what conveniences we want to live with or without. Once the wood house is fixed up, I think the focus will shift onto solar and water catchment.